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AFROMAN

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Favourite Team: BULGARIA

Favourite Players: all bulgarian players

Location: Bulgaria

101

Thursday, November 22nd 2007, 11:14pm

As far as Brazil is still consider to be the best team, I really believe that our team (Bulgaria) has chance to beat Brazil, and it will be really a deciecive match.

quote bulgarian coach Martin Stoev: "We will play to dead, we will not give up after this loss" ;)


"I'm so proud that the fans still sing my name. But I fear tomorrow they will stop. And I fear it because I love it. And everything you love you fear you will lose" - Eric Cantona
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Armel

Administrator

Posts: 1,016

Favourite Team: Tours Volley Ball

Favourite Players: Alexandre Sloboda, Slobodan Boskan, Hubert Henno, Vladimir Nikolov, Nikola Grbic, Loïc de Kergret, Hichem Guemmadi, Petr Konecny, Earvin Ngapeth,

Location: Nantes (France)

102

Friday, November 23rd 2007, 12:22am

Quoted from ""AFROMAN""

Yeah, As I said, that's sport. But how about Russia, you are in the less difficulkt group, only russia is a strong team and in our group only egypt is a weak team, although groups only decide the order of matches it is good to know that you already have 5 victories against the team, I don't think it' fair that way - Bulgaria, USA, Brazil, Spain and Puerto Rico to be in one group in the beggining.


I'm not sure this is a good thing for Russia.

They will have to face the best teams in 3 days. If they lose against Bulgaria, (not mention Spain that they will have to face before) this will be hard for them to fight against all the other best team right after.

And the other teams could rest their best players against Tunisia, Argentina or Japan.

That answers the question of Ruskii about Alekno resting his best players on the second game. He had to do it right after the beginning of the WC because he won't be able to do it in the last games due to the Russian schedule.
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AFROMAN

Coach

Posts: 1,043

Favourite Team: BULGARIA

Favourite Players: all bulgarian players

Location: Bulgaria

103

Friday, November 23rd 2007, 12:28am

Quoted from ""Armel""

Quoted from ""AFROMAN""

Yeah, As I said, that's sport. But how about Russia, you are in the less difficulkt group, only russia is a strong team and in our group only egypt is a weak team, although groups only decide the order of matches it is good to know that you already have 5 victories against the team, I don't think it' fair that way - Bulgaria, USA, Brazil, Spain and Puerto Rico to be in one group in the beggining.


I'm not sure this is a good thing for Russia.

They will have to face the best teams in 3 days. If they lose against Bulgaria, (not mention Spain that they will have to face before) this will be hard for them to fight against all the other best team right after.

And the other teams could rest their best players against Tunisia, Argentina or Japan.

That answers the question of Ruskii about Alekno resting his best players on the second game. He had to do it right after the beginning of the WC because he won't be able to do it in the last games due to the Russian schedule.



Yeah, maybe you are right. And after all the tournament is very interesting up to now.


"I'm so proud that the fans still sing my name. But I fear tomorrow they will stop. And I fear it because I love it. And everything you love you fear you will lose" - Eric Cantona
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104

Friday, November 23rd 2007, 4:39am

BG,

Giba is obviously a very good player, even outside the NT. I mean, it is for a reason that he get's paid a fortune in Iskra. He was also considered MVP in the Italian league, so I don't want to be unfair to him.
But I think we both agree on him, which is good, because some people are fanatical and will not admit he isn't the absolute best.

As for Marcelo, yes, I agree, it's hard not to compare him to Ricardo, but I guess we can only draw a definitive conclusion by the end of the WC.
Do you think Ricardo is better than Mauricio was?

By the way, who do you think is a mediocre player? I think most of them are pretty good, albeit not espetacular.

Armel,

I agree with you that this isn't good for Russia. As for Alekno, you are also right, but I think he could mix up the players, because of the importance of points average.
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Posts: 83

Favourite Team: BRAZIL and Poland

Favourite Players: Giba and Gustavo

105

Friday, November 23rd 2007, 8:16am

Quoted from ""Russkii""

BG,

Giba is obviously a very good player, even outside the NT. I mean, it is for a reason that he get's paid a fortune in Iskra. He was also considered MVP in the Italian league, so I don't want to be unfair to him.
But I think we both agree on him, which is good, because some people are fanatical and will not admit he isn't the absolute best.

As for Marcelo, yes, I agree, it's hard not to compare him to Ricardo, but I guess we can only draw a definitive conclusion by the end of the WC.
Do you think Ricardo is better than Mauricio was?

By the way, who do you think is a mediocre player? I think most of them are pretty good, albeit not espetacular.



About Giba: Yes, he is good and he is really important for Brazil, but I would definetely agree with you that he wouldn't be able to support a team on his own, like some other players like Milikovich and Poltavsky.

About Marcelo: He is not being the disaster I thought he would be. But then again, we would be much better off with Ricardo. As for Ricardo, I do think he is better than Mauricio. I mean, Mauricio was a wonderful setter but Ricardo just changed the way we play volleyball.
Actually I think Marcelo is just a good setter after two of the best setters the world has ever seen.

About mediocre players: I don't know if you remember a brazilian middle blocker named Henrique? I think he was pretty weak... he couldn't play well at all with other setters (maybe with Mauricio, but definetely not outside NT).
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Posts: 83

Favourite Team: BRAZIL and Poland

Favourite Players: Giba and Gustavo

106

Friday, November 23rd 2007, 8:25am

Brazil 3 X 0 Bulgaria :lol:

Excellent match! Gustavo MVP.

Brazil played really well. Everybody played fairly well, especially Gustavo.


As for Bulgaria... not a good match. Brazil really had a good strategy to stop the outside hitters. Nikolov was not good at all...


Now it is time to focus on Russia... :wink2:
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AFROMAN

Coach

Posts: 1,043

Favourite Team: BULGARIA

Favourite Players: all bulgarian players

Location: Bulgaria

107

Friday, November 23rd 2007, 8:42am

Quoted from ""Brazilian Guy""

Brazil 3 X 0 Bulgaria :lol:

Excellent match! Gustavo MVP.

Brazil played really well. Everybody played fairly well, especially Gustavo.


As for Bulgaria... not a good match. Brazil really had a good strategy to stop the outside hitters. Nikolov was not good at all...


Now it is time to focus on Russia... :wink2:


Congratulations on the deserved victory, Brazilian guy. Your team was better. These are awfull days for me, the mistake was in the yesterday's match, they've just had more luck. :( But these losses will not take us down, we will continue with the victories soon. One love, one nation, one team - BULGARIA FOREVER!!!


"I'm so proud that the fans still sing my name. But I fear tomorrow they will stop. And I fear it because I love it. And everything you love you fear you will lose" - Eric Cantona
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Posts: 83

Favourite Team: BRAZIL and Poland

Favourite Players: Giba and Gustavo

108

Friday, November 23rd 2007, 8:48am

Quoted from ""AFROMAN""

Quoted from ""Brazilian Guy""

Brazil 3 X 0 Bulgaria :lol:

Excellent match! Gustavo MVP.

Brazil played really well. Everybody played fairly well, especially Gustavo.


As for Bulgaria... not a good match. Brazil really had a good strategy to stop the outside hitters. Nikolov was not good at all...


Now it is time to focus on Russia... :wink2:


Congratulations on the deserved victory, Brazilian guy. Your team was better. These are awfull days for me, the mistake was in the yesterday's match, they've just had more luck. :( But these losses will not take us down, we will continue with the victories soon. One love, one nation, one team - BULGARIA FOREVER!!!


Well my friend, I think losing is part of the game also. Bulgaria now can focus on beating Russia so they can increase their chances of qualifying for the OG. The European qualifying will very hard so I strongly advise Bulgaria to take this chance. Poland, Italy and Serbia will fight hard for a spot....
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AFROMAN

Coach

Posts: 1,043

Favourite Team: BULGARIA

Favourite Players: all bulgarian players

Location: Bulgaria

109

Friday, November 23rd 2007, 8:53am

Quoted from ""Brazilian Guy""

Quoted from ""AFROMAN""

Quoted from ""Brazilian Guy""

Brazil 3 X 0 Bulgaria :lol:

Excellent match! Gustavo MVP.

Brazil played really well. Everybody played fairly well, especially Gustavo.


As for Bulgaria... not a good match. Brazil really had a good strategy to stop the outside hitters. Nikolov was not good at all...


Now it is time to focus on Russia... :wink2:


Congratulations on the deserved victory, Brazilian guy. Your team was better. These are awfull days for me, the mistake was in the yesterday's match, they've just had more luck. :( But these losses will not take us down, we will continue with the victories soon. One love, one nation, one team - BULGARIA FOREVER!!!


Well my friend, I think losing is part of the game also. Bulgaria now can focus on beating Russia so they can increase their chances of qualifying for the OG. The European qualifying will very hard so I strongly advise Bulgaria to take this chance. Poland, Italy and Serbia will fight hard for a spot....


yeah, of course it's part of the sport, but today's lost, I have nothing to say, you were better, you have won, but yesterday.... :x it was a chance, I hope Brazil will beat Russia, and in that case the russians will play seriously in their last match against USA.


"I'm so proud that the fans still sing my name. But I fear tomorrow they will stop. And I fear it because I love it. And everything you love you fear you will lose" - Eric Cantona
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Justyna

Administrator

Posts: 5,697

Favourite Team: AZS Częstochowa, Poland, Croatia

Location: Poland

110

Friday, November 23rd 2007, 1:24pm

Korea - Tunisia 3-2 (25-17 23-25 21-25 25-22 15-9) match description
You Kwang-Woo (4), Moon Sung-Min (22), Ha Hyun-Yong (9), Shin Young-Soo (22), Park Jun-Bum (16), Ha Kyoung-Min (7), Yeo Oh-Hyun (L) and Kim Yo-Han, Shin Yung-Suk
Kaabi Hichem (22), Hfaiedh Noureddine (15), Ben Hassine Bilel (4), Guidara Ghazi (2), Jouini Chokri (10), Karamosly Hosni (15), Besrour Amine (L) and Ben Tara Skander (7), Garci Marouane (1), Ben Brik Aymen, Jerbi Haykiel

Argentina - Australia 3-1 (25-21 21-25 25-14 25-23) match description
Milinkovic Marcos (26), Stepanenko Diego (8 ), Orduna Santiago (1), Garcia Guillermo (19), Quiroga Rodrigo (12), Aschemacher Rodrigo (7), Meana Martin (L) and De Cecco Luciano, Chavez Lucas, Giani Gaston
Hardy Benjamin (11), Campbell Luke, Yudin Igor (12), Grant Andrew (3), Carroll Paul (26), Alderman Brett (5), Desalvo Phillip (L) and Roberts Nathan (1), Young Matthew (1), Earl Andrew, Ferguson David (3)

Japan - Russia 0-3 (19-25 20-25 23-25) match description
Shimizu Kunihiro (1), Usami Daisuke (1), Matsumoto Yoshihiko (7), Yamamura Kota (2), Ishijima Yusuke (9), Koshikawa Yu (11), Tsumagari Katsutoshi (L) and Chiba Shinya, Yamamoto Takahiro (8 ), Tomimatsu Takaaki (2)
Poltavskiy Semen (15), Tetyukhin Sergey (10), Khamuttskikh Vadim (2), Berezhko Yury (8 ), Volkov Alksander (7), Kuleshov Alexey (15), Verbov Alexey (L) and Kruglov Pavel, Grankin Sergey, Ostapenko Alexey

Spain - Puerto Rico 0-3 (18-25 22-25 18-25) match description
Falasca Miguel Angel (1), Falasca Guillermo (12), Molto Jose Luis (6), Garcia-Torres Julian (7), De La Fuente Enrique (3), Rodriguez Israel (5), Valido Alexis (L) and Pascual Rafael (1), Perez Iban, Sevillano Manuel (8 )
Rivera Jose (8 ), Rivera Victor (9), Perez Angel (3), Rodriguez Luis (4), Soto Hector (21), Escalante Enrique (5) Berrios Gregorry (L) and Bird Victor, Matias Alexis, Roman Mannix

Brazil - Bulgaria 3-0 (25-14 25-21 25-19) match description
Marcelinho, Giba (14), André (10), Gustavo (14), Rodrigão (7), Dante (10), Sergio (L) and Bruno, Anderson (1)
Ivanov Evgeni (7), Tsvetanov Hristo (3), Zhekov Andrey (2), Kaziyski Matey (7), Nikolov Vladimir (16), Konstantinov Plamen (4), Salparov Teodor (L) and Yordanov Boyan, Nikolov Nikolay, Aleksiev Todor (5)

Egypt - USA 0-3 (22-25 18-25 19-25) match description
Awad Hamdy (6), Abd Elnaeim Ahmed (8 ), Bekheit Ossama (1), Youssef Saleh (11), El Mahdy Mohamed, Shaarawy Hossam (4), Al Aydy Wael (L) and Ahmed Abdalla (2), Gabal Mohamed (3), Elnafrawy Mohamed (3), Badawy Mohamed (2), El Daabousi Mohamed (1)
Rooney Sean (18 ), Lee David (6), Priddy William (12), Millar Ryan (7), Hansen Kevin (4), Gardner Gabriel (2), Lambourne Richard (L) and Salmon Riley (1), Stanley Clayton (7)

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Konrad

Szczecinianin

Posts: 2,211

Favourite Team: Poland, USA(M), Spain(M)

Favourite Players: Eleonora Dziękiewicz, Lloy Ball, Manon Flier, Neslihan Demir Darnel, Zbigniew Bartman, Dawid Murek

Location: Poland - Szczecin, near Berlin

111

Friday, November 23rd 2007, 1:38pm

Brasil and Russia are in the best situation know, but we have to remember that Russians haven't played against strong teams yet. There is a very interestng situation after these couple of games: five teams with 8 points :shock: And this amaizing Peurto Rico - they look like they are able to win or lose to everybody. Mysterious team.
I'm sure that both RUS and BRA are going to qualify. Who will be the third? It is hard to say/ Bulgaria still has chances, but I suppose we can have some surprise...
The most important 3:
POLAND-SZCZECIN-VOLLEYBALL

5th place - Prediction Game - World League 2011 :D
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Justyna

Administrator

Posts: 5,697

Favourite Team: AZS Częstochowa, Poland, Croatia

Location: Poland

112

Friday, November 23rd 2007, 1:43pm


25.11.2007
Argentina - Puerto Rico
Spain - Russia
Japan - Egypt
Tunisia - USA
Bulgaria - Korea
Brazil - Australia

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Armel

Administrator

Posts: 1,016

Favourite Team: Tours Volley Ball

Favourite Players: Alexandre Sloboda, Slobodan Boskan, Hubert Henno, Vladimir Nikolov, Nikola Grbic, Loïc de Kergret, Hichem Guemmadi, Petr Konecny, Earvin Ngapeth,

Location: Nantes (France)

113

Friday, November 23rd 2007, 1:51pm

Quoted from ""Konrad""

Peurto Rico - they look like they are able to win or lose to everybody.


They lose only to Brazil and Bulgaria ... So they are exactly in the same position than Bulgaria and USA.
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Konrad

Szczecinianin

Posts: 2,211

Favourite Team: Poland, USA(M), Spain(M)

Favourite Players: Eleonora Dziękiewicz, Lloy Ball, Manon Flier, Neslihan Demir Darnel, Zbigniew Bartman, Dawid Murek

Location: Poland - Szczecin, near Berlin

114

Friday, November 23rd 2007, 1:56pm

Quoted from ""Armel""

Quoted from ""Konrad""

Peurto Rico - they look like they are able to win or lose to everybody.


They lose only to Brazil and Bulgaria ... So they are exactly in the same position than Bulgaria and USA.

Yes, but they also beat Spain and USA, which are not much weaker than Bulgaria for example. I meant, that is evetyhing possible with this team now. During the last WCH they couldn't win against such a good teams.
The most important 3:
POLAND-SZCZECIN-VOLLEYBALL

5th place - Prediction Game - World League 2011 :D
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115

Friday, November 23rd 2007, 5:01pm

Brazil owned Bulgaria, strongly. Gustavo did a great match. Bulgaria, on the other hand, was a complete desaster. The only aspect of their game which worked was the serves, but then Brazilian reception did a great job.
Zhekov's performance is just bad. I thought he did a good WCH, but in this WC... Salparov isn't a great libero either.

Brazil had a better point average against Bulgaria than Russia did against Japan, which really sucks.
Russian team sometimes seem so over confident and uninterested, Poltavski being the biggest example of that. The third set against Japan was ridiculous. If not for our strong block...
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Posts: 170

Location: USA

116

Friday, November 23rd 2007, 6:05pm

It seems the only way for the US to have a chance to qualify for OG during the WC is to win out, including an upset against Russia. This would be very difficult. I do not know when the last time the US has defeated Russia in an important match. I saw two exhibition matches several years ago in Texas where the US and Russia split but i do not believe all of the best players where playing for either team.
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paivavita

Debutant

Posts: 21

Location: Brazil

117

Friday, November 23rd 2007, 6:43pm

congractulatios to the brazil. very nice game. national team dominated all sets. i want see the "fight" enter brazil and russia.
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Justyna

Administrator

Posts: 5,697

Favourite Team: AZS Częstochowa, Poland, Croatia

Location: Poland

118

Friday, November 23rd 2007, 6:49pm

Best players after 2nd round:

Best Scorers
1. Carroll Paul AUS 121
2. Milinkovic Marcos ARG 90
2. Soto Hector PUR 90
4. Kaziyski Matey BUL 81
5. Falasca Guillermo ESP 70

Best Spikers
1. Poltavskiy Semen RUS 65.52
2. Amaral Dante Guimaraes BRA 62.30
3. Ishijima Yusuke JPN 59.57
4. Quiroga Rodrigo ARG 57.28
5. Kaziyski Matey BUL 55.12

Best Blockers
1. Molto Jose Luis ESP 0.94
2. Endres Gustavo BRA 0.80
3. Ben Hassine Bilel TUN 0.64
4. Campbell Luke AUS 0.63
5. Ha Hyun-Yong KOR 0.63

Best Servers
1. Poltavskiy Semen RUS 0.63
2. Koshikawa Yu JPN 0.47
3. Stanley Clayton USA 0.47
4. Ostapenko Alexey RUS 0.44
5. Garcia Guillermo ARG 0.41

Best Diggers
1. Santos Sérgio Dutra BRA 3.00
2. Berrios Gregorry PUR 2.59
3. Valido Alexis ESP 2.12
4. Yeo Oh-Hyun KOR 2.05
5. Lambourne Richard USA 2.00

Best Setters
1. Falasca Miguel Angel ESP 10.65
2. Elgarten Marcelo BRA 10.53
3. Zhekov Andrey BUL 10.05
4. Usami Daisuke JPN 9.41
5. Ball Lloy USA 9.05

Best Receivers
1. Tsumagari Katsutoshi JPN 79.12
2. Santos Sérgio Dutra BRA 78.57
3. Yeo Oh-Hyun KOR 73.38
4. Priddy William USA 72.79
5. Salparov Teodor BUL 68.70

Best Liberos
1. Santos Sérgio Dutra BRA 70.19
2. Valido Alexis ESP 67.68
3. Yeo Oh-Hyun KOR 64.00
4. Tsumagari Katsutoshi JPN 62.80
5. Salparov Teodor BUL 61.01

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Justyna

Administrator

Posts: 5,697

Favourite Team: AZS Częstochowa, Poland, Croatia

Location: Poland

119

Friday, November 23rd 2007, 7:21pm

Video interviews (click on the pics to watch)

Doug Beal (US Volleyball CEO) - part 1


Doug Beal (US Volleyball CEO) - part 2


Marcos Milinkovic (ARG spiker) - english translation here


Antonio Giacobbe (TUN coach)

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120

Sunday, November 25th 2007, 8:44am

Well, what can I say, we are well revenged. Sweet. :D Poltavsky serves are just amazing, they saved us in the first set.
Second and third set were pretty easy, the block finally started to work. This victory was very important, we were able to make a great point average, so I hope Australia put up a hard game against Brazil later - unlikely.
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