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Nastja

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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 2:37am

If you lose three times in a row to someone else, even if the matches were pretty close, you can't claim you are both on the same level - by the way, there was a 3x0 as well.

Of course Poland could beat Russian in the OG, but Russia is clearly the better team.
yes and a 3:0 for poland as well.

And additionally:
Nobody was claiming it, well Celso did, but check also that he is brazilian and not polish. (thats why ur "if YOU loose, YOU cant.... " doesnt work)
And your last sentence doesnt make sense, if poland could win against russia, then russia is "clearly" not the better team.

Sorry for interpreting your words so much, but it sounds just way too arrogant for me
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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 2:45am



If you lose three times in a row to someone else, even if the matches were pretty close, you can't claim you are both on the same level - by the way, there was a 3x0 as well.

Of course Poland could beat Russian in the OG, but Russia is clearly the better team.
yes and a 3:0 for poland as well.

And additionally:
Nobody was claiming it, well Celso did, but check also that he is brazilian and not polish. (thats why ur "if YOU loose, YOU cant.... " doesnt work)
And your last sentence doesnt make sense, if poland could win against russia, then russia is "clearly" not the better team.

Sorry for interpreting your words so much, but it sounds just way too arrogant for me

1) 3x0 for Poland against Russian B team.

2) I was talking about Celso, obviously.

3) Poland can beat Russia, because Poland is not Japan or Dominican Republic, but I do think Russia is clearly the better team, and should most likely win.
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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 3:52am

The 3 -0 results show no balance at all between the teams. When I said Russia and Poland played at the same level I was referring to the matches decided in the tie-breaker by the minimum difference of points. That happened when both teams played with their best players.
That also happened in the last official match between Russia and Poland.

The Russia's team biggest advantage is physical, they have players that are way taller than the tall players of all the other teams. Experience also counts a lot. Even with all these advantages, Poland was able to play a very close match against Russia. I strongly believe in the power of the Polish team, I'm not saying Russia is weak and I don't see any reason for you to feel offended with my post, Ruskii.
We are still the Olympic Champions!!! :cup:

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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 5:33am

Haha, no, I am not offended at all, don't worry. I was only giving my own perspective. In my opinion, Russia, Italy, Brasil and China are all above Poland, in a different level. Poland has a chance to beat Russia, sure, but it is not very likely. I think the 3 games show that, even if two of the matches were close - and by the way, we also beat Poland twice last year, one easy match (European Championship), and another difficult one (Olympic Qualifying) - I am leaving out the GP matches, because I don't remember all of the results, but I think Russia won twice and lost once? That's what I am talking about, even if some of the matches are close, Russia comes on top at the end, almost always.

This is a misunderstanding.
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Konrad

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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 6:51am

So, Poland def. Serbia 3-0 (25-22, 26-24, 25-13)

Poland should be pretty satisfied with this performance and the way things are working out before Beijing. Reception was a bit shaky in the beginning, but it's not much of a problem in general - I've certainly seen them play worse in this aspect before. Also, as I said Glinka and Liktoras weren't really on their usual level but their substitutions Baranska and Gajgal made up for it very well. All in all a very consistent performance from the Polish girls, they were serving really well, not having too many lapses of concentration, Sadurek is playing a very versatile game and using all the spikers to good extent. Skowronska and Baranska were the best IMO, and of course Zenik is really great in defence, although her leg is taped which might indicate some injury, but there was no sign of any.

As for Serbia, no words really. We have huge, HUGE problems in reception. It's nothing new, but it's annoying to have the same problem for years. I guess I don't need to tell who "leads" when it comes to bad reception :roll: , but to be fair things didn't look much better when she was substituted. Maja Ognjenovic just didn't have anything to work with when everyone struggles to even get the ball in play. Still, she also had some very questionable decisions, not the best game she's ever played for sure.
The Olympics will be a painful expereince for Serbia if things don't improve soon.

Congrats to Poland, a victory well deserved!

Thanks for the nice review, Joana. It's very precious, cause not many people was able to watch the game. It is good to know, that Barańska is in a good form, as well as Gajgał. Nice to hear about such a win by Polish team. And I'm sure, that Glinka will play better in Beijing - she like great matches, when she is involved into the game much more than during friendlies :)
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Konrad

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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 6:53am



but I do think Russia is clearly the better team, and should most likely win.

We will see... Thanks God, is not the theoretically better who always wins. It could be five sets win for Poland this time ;)
The most important 3:
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pol

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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 9:41am

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Ros

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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 9:49am

Italy 3:0 Germany (25-13,25-23,25-9)
Extra 2 sets 25-21,25-12
Thanks Valentine, I didn't know they played another match.
Oh, well, now I'm relieved. :) I was really worried after the first match. ^^
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kala

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Favourite Team: Polish NT, Asseco Resovia Rzeszow, BKS Bielsko Biała

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Location: Poland

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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 12:03pm





but I do think Russia is clearly the better team, and should most likely win.

We will see... Thanks God, is not the theoretically better who always wins. It could be five sets win for Poland this time ;)
I believe the same :) we have wonderful fans, they are the next player so... we will se :)
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Zwergvogel

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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 2:04pm

So, Poland def. Serbia 3-0 (25-22, 26-24, 25-13)

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

I really hope that this victory will be a big motivation for the girls !!
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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 5:02pm

Today Brakocevic starts as OP and Djerisilo as OH, with Nikolic.
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Nastja

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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 5:04pm

Btw Joana, what does "danas ruskaje na repertoaru" mean?
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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 5:36pm

Btw Joana, what does "danas ruskaje na repertoaru" mean?
Are you sure it's "ruskaje"? :S It doesn't mean anything. Maybe Ruskinje? It would mean "Russians are in the repertoire today", journalists like to talk like that when they can actually say "We play against Russians today". :roll:

First set for Serbia 25-23. They are better than yesterday, but Russians made some errors in the end of the set. Still no play time for Estes.
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kala

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Favourite Team: Polish NT, Asseco Resovia Rzeszow, BKS Bielsko Biała

Favourite Players: Masza Liktoras, Gosia Glinka, Mariola Zenik, Brakocevic, Krzysiek Ignaczak, * Agata Mróz,

Location: Poland

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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 5:47pm



Btw Joana, what does "danas ruskaje na repertoaru" mean?
Are you sure it's "ruskaje"? :S It doesn't mean anything. Maybe Ruskinje? It would mean "Russians are in the repertoire today", journalists like to talk like that when they can actually say "We play against Russians today". :roll:

First set for Serbia 25-23. They are better than yesterday, but Russians made some errors in the end of the set. Still no play time for Estes.
Joana nice match. I'm watching :P Serbian Team look really good today, Russian makes lot of mistakes esp. in defence I think
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kala

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Location: Poland

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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 6:01pm

Joanna have you got match - Poland vs Serbia or Russia? I've only I-st set POL-SERB. I will give link later. Brakocevic is incredible
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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 6:07pm

No, sorry, I can't record. :(

Russia is lame today, their reception is almost like Serbian yesterday.
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kala

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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 6:12pm

No, sorry, I can't record. :(

Russia is lame today, their reception is almost like Serbian yesterday.
Exactly :)
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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 6:53pm

Serbia def. Russia 3-1 (25-23, 25-20, 19-25, 25-18 )

Well, a win is always nice and it's certainly good to see them play better than the disaster that was yesterday. I don't think it means much as Russia never really got going (so many service errors, they didn't pressure the Serbian reception at all), but it's at least encouraging. Brakocevic played really well.
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kala

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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 6:59pm

Serbia def. Russia 3-1 (25-23, 25-20, 19-25, 25-18 )

Well, a win is always nice and it's certainly good to see them play better than the disaster that was yesterday. I don't think it means much as Russia never really got going (so many service errors, they didn't pressure the Serbian reception at all), but it's at least encouraging. Brakocevic played really well.
Ehh on RTS SAT I have Serbian news ;( doesn't matter. 3 set looks nice...Brakovevic for me is one of the best player, amazing serve, attack with this power. It is still not this Serbia but much better match than yesterday. Esp. serve and defence :) I believe that we will play against in the semi-final. What do you think Joanna? :) I think that you have simmilar style of playing and generally our nations have sth in common :)

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samba player

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Tuesday, July 29th 2008, 7:33pm

I think that you are simmilar style of playing and generally our nations have sth in common :)


Similiar style of playing? Not really! Maybe it can seem, because the style is European, but if you look more in depht you will see a lot of differences.

First of all the setter: Ognjenovic plays a really fast ball. Sadurek is a very precise setter, but way slower. Also the play with the MBs is different. Ognjenovic use of pipe with Nikolic is fast and effective.

Then the serve. Polish use a lot the float serve and they are way more tactical. Serbians use a lot the jump serve with less tacticism.

Skowronska and Brakocevic are different OPPs. Skowronska plays also shorter balls and in a more intelligent way.

But I like both teams. The reasons are different, but I like both teams. :olympia:
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